Find the difference among Guru alike Father (it may self inner ) / Mother and Child alike Curious (it may own mind )
P: Namaste !
G: God bless you , Sit comfortable and Ask !
G : ( smile) Its very simple , but before explaining my vision , asking from you certain things from nature , do you feel shy to see growth of tree ! or do you shy to see rocks get multiply in years ! or you feel shy to see Jeeva (fishes and animals ) meetings . things are natural its nature's nature ! few have query due to self hesitation of accepting truth . and few get accept the nature AS IT IS .
P: Yes , We feel hesitation in express , we feel hesitant in accept ,
G: No its not you ! its all about seasoning , in few countries from birth they have different vision , not under right and wrong , just understand it is as seasoning . but this is not Vision ! this is only upbringing . another name is Social Ritual (Sanskara ) , these rituals also get change over the time frame area-wise . OK , Once you understand mind' s function you understand all story of mind related . but as summery here , its matter of acceptance to nature through vision .
P: I have one query also ! many times i heard pornography is a extension of Kamsutra (hindu's sex-grantha ) Only .
G: (little broader smile) , Dear this query is a extended version of previous one only , still if you asking , i will take you little back in Hindu religious History with grew consciousness . just keep yourself free first from your current upbringing and seasonings . The Hindu Dharma is very liberal , whatever hardness is not religious is all mental and political . Its get very long if we digging entire Hindu religion history , for only this sex subject perspective we may touch the ground (mentality) of golden age of Hinduism .that time and that mentality was more enhanced consciously , people were accept two sex wisely not hesitantly , The Grantha Got write on that period where Crime was also art !
Yes , Of-course with certain punishments according to time and judiciary ................... no matter things are how artistic but if they disturb general public peace and they snatching or try to rob their honest income of life either money or pattern / styles of culture , its punishable set for society ; in any time !
Those wrote that Grantha was Rishi / Sage Vatsyayan , this grantha can not get write by any of as general , ever you hear during making and servings food personality reflection also appears , how you understand this food cook by some one ! same with writer, on writing original impact of personality also appears ... and this Grantha . Same with Sages their written shastra also gives there wisdom Information and all is Symbolic what we get as information as knowledge and which make our experience till than journey is exist . The Kamsutra have high level of wisdom who serves different artistic parameters of human nature .
P: But Guru ji , how we understand high wisdom of that time !
G: (again smiles on child alike reaction ) Dear , Only self enhanced conscious may reply to all query . my saying may not get in or may you understand if you have true faith upon me as Pointer!
you may find layers in wisdom during your austerity , but you were much before as person also with fixed mentality , so this is vision of growth and acceptance of subject . so if your austerity gives changes with in you than they sages were also find many fruits during their austerity , that too you find a different perspective on current scenario , they found that vision on that already enhanced scenario . Do you able to get essence !!
The time was when Hinduism was stand on strong religious pillars of wise sages . with acceptance and surrender of current time . this current time is very much valuable to make mentality and seasoning , keep in mind anytime . the time was of not simply following , individual also had certain wisdom towards acceptance . that time world was not so big and not easy to connect for general public as today we have . so that country culture was not under nailing so strong as today we have . Masters gives certain rules to live healthy lives to persons and people lives according administrations . do not mix previous knowledge and current knowledge . yes ! you can take points to move further with recognition and respect of sages austerity . From that era to this time and in between of time so many mixture comes out , so many religion appears so many society appears with self claims . many political pressures nailed and twist to religion own way and current time you can see loads of changes , but it was not earlier !
So that the highly explosive subject sex and sexuality also , The sage have same vision in front of either plant is growing or animal / human is meting , there is no difference to them . so that they can serves artistic angle also .( and this is simple sage vision )
Now things to understand according to why pornography is not well accepted in society ! and why Kamsutra established as Hindu Grantha with all purity ! yes you may think ! because still 99 % person are living and walking up on two legs
All hesitations are of self ignorance . need to understand human psychology behind , for a minute ; forget about sex and think about money, to grab money according to desire people are doing many hidden and open efforts , we called them black and white , some time it become criminal and punishable also . but people are deep in sink without thinking of result . Now take it same with pornography . People are soaked in lust without thinking good and bad it is black and white . so that sexuality become hidden due to excessive white purity used by black . but black doesn't want to loose so that pure sexuality convert for short-while in pornography . and over the time it become so convenient for black . Because Only Black is in Human ; who can wear white clothes also , white not in will to wear Black . Only Black want hidden aspect to them as duality , one is for show and another-one is for hide and in both hands wrist should be full . But for white nothing to hide , nothing to save , for white , all is open alike child .
Though ; this is also upbringing patterns and mix n match everywhere but western area on Earth have dominance of materialistic so that teachings also start more with understanding of material. As area shade resides more to lower chakra , which is more dominant in living ,( cant denies of other spiritual conscious quality with them you may find Good Spiritual Gurus of western part of Earth also and they works through rejuvenate and awake of lower chakra for people and effected person so that spiritual teachings made according to them to take them out . Let's comes on on same subject of pornography and conditioning of minds ... because its on there culture they understand and accept without hidden body as hesitations . And other-part of Earth who comes in mix n match they get crash among two cultures , by seasoning they can accept but by desire they can not fade that aspect . so that different shade appears and they only start to mixing own black and white desires according to religion ... ( ....... big laugh .......) and this is the root problem of human .
In Hinduism ( and please don't spoil the religion by mixing of two time tale ; past era and present changes ) if you understand pin point this religion start with nourishment of soul direct , works upon chakras direct and gives ride through Yogic practices towards Oneness . More Scientific More authentic . with respectfully non denial of all religions teachings . One need to understand wisely to Hinduism teachings and Sage's Heart of Concept behind this religion , not as today it get perverted socially and politically . Reality is just opposite, for ex: As each of you have own personality and you can not move a single step on whispers desires which comes from outer atmosphere , they may motivate internally. here fine point is your all movements are from inner Original and only take shape in karma when get inner motive , and this is psychological reality . Same Religion also have own personality- body and cant move upon whispers outer Informations ; so that , you find pit and stagnation during walks in religious path.
And why we all discus long on this subject ! because , its all story of one tail and root is Seasoning which convert and pervert taste of real fruit . you may think when i sow mango tree why mangoes taste get differ , and you will find in answer its only mine " Seasoning and Ignorance ".
and just find among entire Subjects which are subdivision of mind only ; as SEASONING of human gradual psychological developments .
P: yes now i understand , may i convince to other on right way !
G: My Suggestion is ; do not try to convince others , enhance only self Consciously, its more than enough.
P: Namaste . and thank you , yes will do !
Thank you to readers to read this conversation inspired with one of respected Sd_Guru talks .